The Board Game Bubble

The Board Game Bubble. In this video I chat about the board game bubble and how kickstarter how be changing the landscape for both games and retailers.

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  • move away from the camera man, you barely fit within the screen 🙂

    Arek Krolak July 16, 2020 12:50 pm Reply
  • Found that very interesting and very accurate. Funnily enough I was in traveling man last night and a mum was in with her teenage daughter asking for advice on games, the mum did all the talking they were looking for games to play each other and were not aware of the board game culture at all it seemed so would not know about Kickstarter.

    scoutingtheweb July 16, 2020 12:50 pm Reply
  • Being new to other than Monopoly board and tabletop gaming I get frustrated with KS. I don't really know How it works. For example how risky is backing a game, when will I get a copy, etc. Would it be possible to make a video explaining how Kickstarter works in tabletop games? The do's n don'ts, etc?

    Jason Koier July 16, 2020 12:50 pm Reply
  • Still unplayed on my shelves… Masmorra, Massive Darkness, Chez Geek, Unstable Unicorns, Stuffed, Endangered Orphans of Condyle Cove, Santorini, Arkham Horror the card game, Buffy the vampire slayer, Village Attacks…

    ElTsunamiDiablo July 16, 2020 12:50 pm Reply
  • Hey Andy – I've had a lot to say about this previously, and will probably be writing something up about it soon, but I wanted to offer you the film industry as an analogy
    When a movie comes out at the cinema there's a lot of buzz and activity about it [this is the equivalent of KS campaigns being launched], X mths later we see the sell-thru retail DVD and on-demand sales of said movie, with little buzz about them [KS gets delivered, games appear on retail shelves, etc]. Finally, X mths later these movies are shown via conventional TV schedules and networks [this is the point at which games end up on the 'SALE' shelves if they haven't already been forgotten]. Sticking with this analogy, very few of these movies become 'hits' in the same vein as, say: Star Wars, Jurassic Park, Terminator, Dirty Dancing, etc. If any games ever achieve this status, they're rightly considered 'classics' (Scythe, Pandemic, etc)

    And incidentally, you're totally right about not having time to play the games we've already got – just one of the reasons for my current 'sabbatical' — "No games buying, and No KS backing…" Oooh!

    R A Bardy July 16, 2020 12:50 pm Reply
  • Unfortunately the cult of the new has total control of the boardgame hobby…
    I have backed a few kickstarters and have been very pleased with what I got…
    My local flgs is very competitive…and has game nights..
    But again struggles to know what and how much to get in…
    I have really liked a lot of card games on KS…but postage is so high…
    I'd like to think that the hobby will plateau..and become more consistent…and less cult of the new and more cult of the good…
    I think KS games should be KS exclusive…that then wouldn't impact as much as it does now…
    Great subject Andy…😁

    One Man And His Board Games July 16, 2020 12:50 pm Reply
  • Great topic. But is there not also a potential Kickstarter bubble?
    The last 4-5 years I have personally backed many board games on Kickstarter.
    In the early days it was pure frenzy and a huge amount of games came in, and many still not even played.
    Then came a period of more carefully selection. Only really interesting games with both great theme, art, mechanics and value was purchased. On the other hand I also dug deeper in the pocket on these.
    But lately I have found to grow weary of most games on kickstarter. Even the most lush, wonderfull and hyped ones. They basically all seem to be different variants of something I have already and already feel bad about not playing enough.
    So my attention is drawn to exactly my huge treasure trove on the shelves at home already. Pimping, painting and playing these have become a great joy. And what had become a quite stressful thing with kickstarter, for both my mind and money, is pretty much gone. Left is thankfully the joy of playing again, which honestly did suffer these last 4-5 years.
    I wonder if anybody else feel the same, and if so, if the kickstarter bubble will eventually burst because of this…?

    Rune Larsen July 16, 2020 12:50 pm Reply
  • Wonderfully astute comments and thoughts on this subject Andy. Actually I never supported any "kickstarter" although I did like the look of many of them. I have certainly bought far too many games, many left unplayed to my shame. I think that I and many others are motivated by "FOMO" among other reasons, so I am trying to be more selective this year – Let's see how that goes lol. :>)

    Peter Nicholas July 16, 2020 12:50 pm Reply
  • i dont see myself using kickstater. i just dont see the point in spending 150 or 200 pounds plus shippingand the wait for 1 or 2 years… i have friends that use it and what i feel happens is they get game play it once or twice store it for some monts and then sell it. somo of those friends have also decided not to use kickstarter has mutch because of that. dont get me wrong there are somo good games, and kicstarter is a great tool but i still prefer to buy something after some investigation on the quality of the game and components. with kicstater you never really know if the game is going to be as fun as they are selling it…

    António Laranjeira July 16, 2020 12:50 pm Reply
  • interesting video, definitely an important stuff to be thinking/talking about. i'm not much of a board gamer (not necessarily by choice, just hard to find a good group in a small town) but even so i've still bought into a lot of boardgame KS hype, i see these amazing concepts, the beautiful art, detailed mini's, etc. and start to get invested in the idea, never stopping to think about whether it's worth it since i'll likely never play the games, "luckily" for me i have limited hobby funds, so can't go through with most pledges. one game i did end up following through on was Hellboy, and while i don't regret that since i love the IP and am looking forward to painting the mini's, i still wonder if i'll ever actually play that game… the other KS boardgame i've backed is Solomon Kane, again because i love the IP and got caught up in the hype, that one is looking top quality and i love the mini's so i have no regrets backing it either, but again i'm wondering how likely it is that it will ever hit the table for playing. anyways, great video, definitely gave me something to think about. oh, and congrats on 4K subs!

    Halloween Crab July 16, 2020 12:50 pm Reply
  • Great Video. I agree with your thoughts on this one. FLGS’ are being hit hard with KS but at the same time most KS’ have a retailer option in their pricing. Additionally most gaming stores deal with Battle/skirmish games, so the increase in miniature board games isn’t that big of a deal in my mind, unless people stop spending money on the mass army/squad games because of it. Something else I’ve noticed in the past year is that more and more gaming cafes seem to be opening up and doing well.

    Kristian Reeves July 16, 2020 12:50 pm Reply
  • I avoid kickstarters these days but I also avoid the games when they're available to buy in shops because, as you said, I feel like it's a lesser product. Great video.

    Will Calwell July 16, 2020 12:50 pm Reply
  • Great video and congratulations on the 4k. I wonder how long this can keep going for. It seems to me that the bubble will burst sooner rather than later. Too many products with short shelf lives. Cmon for example churn out game after game with the cost seeming to rise with each release. What's the replayability like? Zombiecide seemed to flourish whereas The Others for example seems to have vanished without a trace. The lack of support after initial release for some games speaks volumes. For some companies kickstarter is a revenue maker for them rather than a means to get a product to market. Cheers.

    Paulos 01 July 16, 2020 12:50 pm Reply
  • Great video, In one way working a late shift has ment that the games I buy get played by our group as we host a games night every 2 weeks due to having kids , the downside is I have not been into the tabletop/board games club's so miss the interaction with new players. I tend to hear of games through youtube and Kickstarter and get it if I like it and know it will get played normaly through a online store since our best boards games store closed. Untill Sword and Board closed in Exeter I would make a point to get a game through them if it had hit retail to help support the store.

    Steve's Small World July 16, 2020 12:50 pm Reply
  • Great video. I’m currently obsessed with Reichbusters! This will be my 1st kickstarter buy in.
    I’ll let you know how it goes.

    Henry Mendes July 16, 2020 12:50 pm Reply
  • I will never Ks. I follow the games I like on F/b group pages and the amount of people who still love the game and can`t find people to play with in their local area. Seems after years since the K/s has finished some people still haven`t received their full pledges, and the bile for a particular company has to be seen. I really don't see the point of buying a game and dropping 100£+ and not opening the shrink wrap, bizarre!!!!

    David Martyn July 16, 2020 12:50 pm Reply
  • Initially I back a lot of kickstarters but as they progress and more "add ons" are announced I tend to back out. I feel compelled to get everything, and when I see the butcher's bill near the end, I back out completely. Is it me being cheap, or smart? Maybe both sometimes.

    flipmoviemaker July 16, 2020 12:50 pm Reply
  • there are a couple of games I KS'd for that I had high hopes for, but haven't really been able to play due to the lack of others either knowing about it or having their own copy with expansions I might not have gotten. this is very true with the Mythic Battle Panteon. Due to this I have skipped over other games that I thought looked really good because it was clear that it would never make it to retail to help bring in more players. Now if i think about a KS game with miniatures, I think how can i reuse the mini's for other Table top games. For example my version of Mythic Battles the god mini's pull extra duty as giants or gods for my D&D game,

    David Smith July 16, 2020 12:50 pm Reply
  • The Hype train hit me between the eye with Mythic Battles Pantheon. I was so excited, I spent about $600 CND on it. When it arrived, I didn’t even take it out of shrink, I just put the 2 big boxes aside. After a few days I sold it online for a $150 loss, simply to get it out of the house. I haven’t KS since, but see an increase each year in KS games. One local FLGS tried to move to a place to play, but was to charge $5 per person at the table … the 40k group effected actually rented a cheap location, charged $15 a month for full access to this “club” and its grown giving the retailer a problem; no in store traffic. I have so many games but it’s like a library now, a reference library, for I don’t play half as much as I should and I’m buying based mainly on reviews, by solid reviewers: like yourself. This board game hype is also in part due to YouTube and Twitch which offer playthroughs and battle reports, again increasing hype.

    Reluctant Artsy July 16, 2020 12:50 pm Reply
  • Yes, couldn't agree more. Congratulations on hitting 4K subs!

    Mark Berrecloth July 16, 2020 12:50 pm Reply

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